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However, considering a comment I read over on Kotaku that stuck out in my mind the most was:

"If they want to be true to the game, Ryu should look more like a Nebraska football player than a Japanese martial artist."  So in the end, if they really want to be true to the game..... :)
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I didn't care for the 10 man / 25 man same dungeon focus when it became available for WotLK, and so I'm especially biased against the new changes now.  Having only experienced the relative ease people were able to pug and clear Karazhan and Zul'aman (although never was in a pug that could do the bear mount challenge) compared to never being in a successful pug clearing coilfang resevoir: serpentshrine cavern or tempest keep: the eye (my favorite zones in BC), to say that logistics is the only challenge...well I disagree.  There's a reason there aren't 5 man raid zones. 

As far as loot, I can't speak for WotLK's raiding, but my experiences in BC:  loot *always* matters.  I'm always skeptical of someone who claims (and many do) "I don't care about the loot, I just enjoy the friends, camaraderie, blah, blah, etc. etc."  If you remove all incentives to raid a dungeon, people won't raid it, even if its got a great storyline...and I'll argue TK had an *excellent* finale, with the fight with Kaelthas Sunstrider being one of my favorite fights in the game (although his intro speech did get old, until the finally did change that).  If you think back, when they removed attunement to Black Temple and Mount Hyjal, and improved badge vendor gear, did anyone who previously didn't beat TK or SS raid those zones anymore?  At that time they also nerfed the difficulty of SS and TK, so I think that people "concerned with experiencing the game with friends" would have made more of an effort to experience the storyline...they were empty from that point on.

Also, an aside, when you saw that lucky SoB with the phoenix mount, weren't you just the teeniest bit jealous?  I guess we'll see how it plays out....hopefully the content of Cataclysm will be more enticing than the changes to the mechanics."

Moreover, I disliked Kevin's approach to the matter--perhaps it could be that I simply just agree with Frank's point of view enough to not really appreciate Kevin's point of view, but I do feel his argument was loaded a bit much with comments such as "They already get to ride the bus. Why do they want to sit up front with us?"  I think if you were to use that analogy, It was as though homosexual people were only restricted to silver membership, and denied gold membership...was this the case while I wasn't looking?  Also, the decision to use "secret gamer" as an attempt to buy emotional support seems a bit loaded for this audience--would your argument be as effective if you were to change this to say....secret stamp hobbyist?  Incognito Mad magazine or Cracked magazine collector?  Also the attempt to integrate MLK's movement in comparison with XBOXLive's policy--which many still feel it wasn't unfair, since it was a blanket policy for everyone of all creed, race, etc. and in *no way* a direct comparison to the civil rights movement--does this really fit this situation?  In closing, if this was the policy in the first place, I really don't think anyone would cared, myself included."