Tales from the Darkside: Xbox 360 support and the new disc-format update

Ico
Tuesday, May 31, 2011
EDITOR'S NOTEfrom Jay Henningsen

I sincerely hope that Sumo's tale is not a portent of the future of Xbox 360 owners. Either way, he received some pretty bad customer service from Microsoft on this issue.

Xbox Support

I’m no Xbox 360 hater. My disposition towards Microsoft right now is only a result of their shoddy hardware and atrocious support. This is simply my experience, and in no way do I expect everyone who’s ever dealt with Xbox Support to share in the awful, awful customer service I received. Come with me on my journey of frustration and rage! C’mon everyone; I’ve got beer!

I had been chosen to participate in the recent dashboard update and receive my generic, bootleg-looking copy of Halo: Reach on the new disc format. On May 17, 2011, I updated my console with a new build of the dashboard that was pushed out to preview participants. After updating and rebooting, all was well, so I decided I wouldn’t mind playing Gears of War (primarily to renew my interest in the series with Gears of War 3 on the horizon). Upon pressing X to start the game from the dashboard, I was met with the message “unsupported disc.” That’s odd, right? I then tried playing Alan Wake but received the same error. Obviously concerned, I put the Halo: Reach I received, and it booted up and played without issue.

 

I tried Gears, AW, and even Crackdown again, and I was met with the same message: unsupported disc. Now, my console had worked fine prior to updating, so I was positive the update that was pushed out had something to do with it. To rule out the ever so common “reboot,” I powered off my 360, let sit for 2-3 minutes, and powered it back on. This time I was met with the lovely E74 error. I phoned 1-800-4MY-XBOX and reported what had happened to the phone support representative. I was told that since I was in the preview, I would need to go to http://connect.microsoft.com and submit feedback...so I did. I unplugged everything from my 360 (the HDD, A/V cables, Ethernet cable and power cord) and let it sit overnight.

The next morning, as if it were Christmas day, the 360 powered on and greeted me with the swooshing logo and four green lights. However, my initial problem remained: unsupported disc. I swapped out the Gears disc and replaced it with Reach. I rebooted, and upon this power cycle of the system, the E74 error returned. I updated the feedback I had originally submitted via Microsoft Connect and awaited their assistance. The feedback form asked for my serial number, any error codes I was receiving and the firmware build I was running (all of which I was able to get before the E74 error occurred…again). Shortly afterwards, I received an email from Xbox Support providing me an SR number and a shipping label for me to send my console in for repair. Keep in mind my console is a 2006 model, whose warranty had long since expired. They were aware of that as the console was registered, but I assumed since it was a software corruption issue due to their update, they were willing to correct the problem. I shipped the console out on May 18 and waited for the return of my 360.

On May 25, I received an email stating my console would not be repaired under warranty (there was no warranty) due to “tampering.” I haven’t the slightest clue how to open a 360, nor do I own tools to do it (besides a screwdriver and hammer). When I phoned Xbox Support to dispute this claim, I was told my console was, in fact, being repaired and I should receive it in 5-10 days. I reiterated my concern as I had an email claiming one thing and phone support stating the polar opposite. I was assured my console was being repaired and to expect it soon. That same day, I received another email stating my console had been shipped from their service center and a UPS tracking number was provided. I called yet again to verify my console had indeed been fixed (even the automated attendant stated it was repaired and shipped). I explained again the email I received and what I was told by phone support. This time I was told my request had been escalated and asked when would be a good time for a representative from the “Escalation Team” to call me. I provided the time 1 p.m. EST, and they stated Friday would be the earliest they could call... but to expect a call.

On the May 26, I decided to call support one more time to see if I could potentially speak to the “Escalation Team” that day to get clarification and resolution to this entire mess, but again I was told Friday was the earliest they could call, and they would update the request with my call. By 3:30 p.m. on Friday, I'd received no phone calls. I decided to phone support again and this is where the fun really began. There was no call. There never was a call. Whoever told me that (two different phone support reps by the way) was mistaken or as I like to put it…lied. My console had been tampered with and so, they weren’t going to do anything. I could pay $100 and they would fix it, but as that is a steaming pile of horseshit, I declined stating my console had not been tampered with and I wanted to dispute that claim.

I was offered nothing but the opportunity to send it back in and pay for the repair -- one that was made necessary by their software, faulty hardware, or a combination of the two. Let this be a warning: Xbox Support will lie to you blatantly. They don’t know how to provide customer service. Xbox Support will falsely label your console anything they see fit without giving you the opportunity to dispute it. As I await the return of my 360, which was broken by Microsoft and not repaired, “Sorry for your frustration” just does not cut it.  

 
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Comments (20)
Dscn0568_-_copy
May 28, 2011

I was able to get my Xbox repaired without a problem, though it luckily clunked out right before the warrantly expired. Of course, that doesn't excuse the run-around you're getting.

Ico
May 28, 2011

 

I am not and was not asking for a new slim or anything crazy. I simply followed the process they told me to follow. My console wasn't tampered with and it's insulting that they just stamp that label on it and wash their hands. On top of lying to me when speaking with their support reps, I've tweeted to Xbox Support, emailed them and finally emailed Major Nelson (not that it will do anything). This is absolute madness.

Default_picture
May 31, 2011
Alex Rubins over at sidequesting.com had a similar problem and experience with customer service. His recounting of the events is eerily similar: http://www.sidequesting.com/2011/05/e66-targeted-xbox-patch-packs-pitfals/
Ico
May 31, 2011

Thanks for the link Dan, I appreciate it. It's sad to see others struggling to get Microsoft to right their wrong. I'm still fighting with them. 

Robsavillo
May 31, 2011

That's very Kafka-esque. And Microsoft seems to believe that their software is infallible...ha!

Picture_15
May 31, 2011

I've recently had issues with my 360 not playing just one game Mortal Kombat. Called xbox support and they wanted me to troubleshoot for 2 hours, stuff that I'd do anyway. I don't want to ramble so I'll just say "sorry man".

Robsavillo
May 31, 2011

I thought Microsoft was offering to replace such consoles affected by the firmware update with a new slim model? At least, that's what Eurogamer reported about two weeks ago.

Ico
May 31, 2011

 

They made no mention of that to me, nor did I request it. I just wanted it fixed. Didn't expect or feel a new slim was necessary. Of course, NOW I do :) I used every support avenue available to me: Twitter, email and phone. I got nowhere with each and finally emailed and tweeted Major Nelson…still nothing. I just wanted to be treated fairly. I did ask if my console would come back to me as I sent it and they stated yes. I'm interested in seeing if the stain on the back and the faceplate I removed are still in that condition. If not, I feel I've been swindled. Of course, I've yet to receive my 360.

Robsavillo
May 31, 2011

 

Did you buy your console used by chance? I did a little digging -- if there is a previous owner, she may have flashed the DVD drive with a different, unauthorized firmware. If you're able to flash the drive with the original firmware, the E 66 error should go away.

Ico
May 31, 2011

No, it was bought brand new (it's a "Core" model) in 2006. The error I received was E74 after rebooting the console because it wouldn't read anything but Reach. 

Robsavillo
May 31, 2011

Ah, OK. My mistake -- I got your story mixed up with the SideQuesting article. Hope you get this sorted out!

Ico
May 31, 2011

I appreciate you digging though, thanks man. 

Rsz_1magus2
May 31, 2011

Chalk another one up to the corporation... I thought you said there was beer??

100media_imag0065
May 31, 2011

Microsoft absolutely LOVES to do what they want with you, and give you absolutely no way to dispute it. I have friends who woke up one day to find their consoles banned. Luke had his console banned for apparently having a hacked console. Problem was, Luke couldn't hack a toaster let alone an Xbox 360. After about a dozen calls and threats of a lawsuit he eventually gave up. Microsoft has absolutely no system in place that allows you to prove your innocence.

My other friend had the same exact problem as you when they recieved his broken Xbox 360 in the mail. He got a message telling him his console was tampered with, and they would not fix it for free. Again, he does not know how to hack anything, and he never opened his console. He argued for weeks, but it did not matter. They had made up their minds and they were not going to listen to his complaints.

Microsoft is set up in such a way that they purposefully ignore your calls for justice. You can not prove your innocence, you can not dispute a claim, you can not talk to anyone with sense. They are allowed to do what they want, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it short of suing them. The moral of the story is to know who you are dealing with here.

They lie through their teeth, and they are angry at having to spend billions for fixing your broken console that broke because of their greed in the first place.

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May 31, 2011

Ed... you just described pretty much all of corporate America!

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May 31, 2011

Congrats on your first article Sumo and sorry to hear about your MS woes, but try to keep an eye on those typos (especially in picture captions that can't be easily fixed and, of course, headlines). 

Ico
May 31, 2011

 

Thanks Haley, I appreciate it bro! I debated removing the pic due to the typo of "to" instead of "too", but I couldn't find a picture that said what I felt with the error code I experienced. Any headline typos, feel free to point them out! Thanks again man. 

Default_picture
May 31, 2011
This did in fact happen to me. I am working with Microsoft trying to point this out and get it taken care of. I have been constantly updating the article posted in the comments above with any new information on the story. Heck, I was even contacted by Stephen Toulouse, Director of Xbox Live Policy and Enforcement, to see if he could grab my console for tests as they don't know why it is happening. Feel free to follow me on Twitter as I have been digging up more information: @alexrubens.
Ico
May 31, 2011

Followed. I'll be adding this and updating my blog to try and keep people (well, anyone actually) informed. We shouldn't have to go through all of this. Feel free to follow me as well - @yesmynameissumo

Ico
June 01, 2011

 

Just hung up with phone support and there is no way to dispute. Whatever label gets stamped on the console sticks. Here's the kicker: They didn't even open it up. They simply looked at the external condition. 

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