Five Steps to Getting Any Red-Ringed Xbox 360 Repaired for Free

Saturday, April 17, 2010

Editor's Note: I personally feel that Microsoft should be responsible for repairing any console that fails due to a design flaw or manufacturing defect regardless of the age of the system. Ross gives us some helpful tips to navigate this difficult customer service hurdle. -Jay


One piece of information that both Microsoft and retailers carrying the Xbox 360 probably aren't too keen on spreading is that, no matter what, you can get your console repaired free of charge when it red rings even if you purchased it used.

Red Ring

Yes, I said it. After over seven years in retail, almost five years of selling the 360, and countless calls to Microsoft's customer service line, I have been able to get my consoles, and those of my customers, repaired 100 percent of the time. It merely requires a little patience and some very simple knowledge.

First of all, since the 360 launched in 2005, gamers paying attention have seen a few changes in the manufacturer's warranty due to a large amount of hardware failures. Initially Microsoft offered a 90-day warranty. They later extended it to one year for all issues not related to abuse and then three years for the infamous red ring of death or E74 errors. During all of this, Microsoft took steps to soften the blow consumers receive when their machine fails. They include a one-month Xbox Live Gold subscription card upon return of your console, at the very least.

If you follow these simple tricks, you can make sure that, regardless of the circumstances, your console gets repaired free of charge.

 

1. Make your first attempt to start the repair process via the support website. (http://www.xbox.com/support)Serial Number

You shouldn't have much trouble navigating this website. Enter the information that it requires of you and, if all goes perfectly, you never have to make the phone call to customer support. If at any point this gives you an error or tells you the console has already been registered, get your phone ready. You will need to do a little more leg work.

2. Next, you should gather all of the required information and be aware of some simple troubleshooting facts.

For this to go as smoothly as possible, you'll want to provide all of the same registration information you just punched into their support website. While you most likely have not forgotten your name, address and e-mail, you probably haven't memorized the console serial number.

Also, they will want to know what you have done so far, or they will try to help you troubleshoot the problem first. If you tell them that the power brick has a yellow light when the console is off, a green when it is on, and that with or without the hard drive you are receiving the same error, you will progress past this step much faster.

3. You're ready to make the call, but how do you avoid getting stuck in the automated menu?

In case you haven't found it yet, the phone number you'll need is 1-800-4MY-XBOX.

An automated menu greets you after you dial the number. You can just skip right by most of it by saying "customer service" the first chance you get. Now you face the toughest part.

4. Do not get discouraged and never give up.

Once you exchange formalities with the support representative, and they look up the information on you and your red-ringed buddy, the fun part is about to begin. If your console is less than three years old, and you are the original owner, you shouldn't have any problems. However, if both of these aren't true, keep the following in mind:

Phone Call

No matter what, tell them you are the original owner of the console. If they doubt you, act confused or even offended if they suggest you aren't telling the truth. When I call on behalf of my customers at work, this is easier for me because I can sometimes look up the original purchase data and say the original information is incorrect, or blame fictional past employees. If you know the store you originally purchased it at, you can even attempt to blame the employees there for the discrepancy.

As far as they're concerned, you would never, and have never used a third party accessory of any kind. Intercooler units may or may not be a good idea depending on who you talk to, but Microsoft doesn't want to hear that you own one. Just say "no."

If you feel like you are getting nowhere with whoever answered your call, just ask to speak with a manager. You should resist the urge to hang up. If you badger them enough they will pass you along to someone who might be better equipped to help you. If they hang up on you, or you get disconnected, you merely have more ammo for your return call. Though they will offer resistance, they don't actually want to argue with you. If you're persistent and stay on the phone for about an hour, they're more likely to agree to replace your console.

5. These final tips and discussion points may help.

Perhaps you'd like some tried and tested conversation pieces for getting what you need out of this experience. Here are a few lines I've had success with in the past.

  • Explain that you find it hard to understand why your console died when you have never moved or mishandled it.
  • Explain that you find it interesting that they offer a three-year warranty and are now refusing to repair your console even though Microsoft has admitted that the hardware has issues.
  • Discuss how many articles you've come across explaining the many failures that the Xbox 360 console has experienced.
  • Ask why a console that sold so many units has had so many hardware revisions due to the red ring of death.

At the end of this, you should have secured a shipping label, packed up your friend in a cardboard coffin, and wished it a safe trip. Don't forget to remove any games or hard drives from your console before shipping. Most likely, you will not receive the same machine you send away.

I hope I've convinced at least one or two people that they do not need to go buy another 360 to remedy a hardware defect. I've lost count of how many people I've tried to explain this same information to, only to have them reluctantly spend another $200. Also, while this will frustrate almost any retail associate, you can pretty much stop buying those extended store warranties. While they do offer convenience, you often have to give up all the hard work on your hard drive in order to redeem them. Sometimes, you even have to pay the difference if the console's price has dropped below what is currently available.

If you have any other helpful tips for navigating this customer service nightmare, please let me know. I'm happy to include them in this article.

 
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Comments (12)
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April 09, 2010

Great PSA. I'm one of those suckers who threw down another pile of cash to get an elite (though I'm loving that HDMI now!)

With this info at my disposal, I'll never buy a new 360 again. Thanks!

Jayhenningsen
April 09, 2010

Very helpful post. Thanks!

April 17, 2010

Great tips!  I will definitely try this the next time my 360 inevitably breaks.

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April 17, 2010

All really good advice. In my experience, the key thing to do is stay on the phone. Keep arguing (but be civil about it) as long as possible.

Once you approach the one-hour mark, it seems like you're hitting the very limit of how long they're allowed to deal with your call. Both times I've had to argue my way to a replacement console, it almost seemed like a switch was pulled. Instead of arguing I was past warranty, the person on the other line just gave in and sent out the packing label (no coffins anymore, though).

Just remember not to be insulting or threatening. Stay calm and be persistent. Repeat your points over and over again as long as it draw out the time.

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April 17, 2010

I went through this process 3 times. . . I had it replaced for free once, repaired for free for half price (which was eventually returned to me after a class action lawsuit) and the third time  i got nowhere (i decided to buy an arcade unit with a bestbuy 2 year warranty).

 

My advise it to stay calm, don't get angry, and get them to be sympathetic to you rather than angry at you. Also remember that they have a script which you have to navigate through (try to get them to go to the next level each time).

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April 18, 2010

While the editor, Jay, indicates his personal belief that "Microsoft should be responsible for repairing any console that fails due to a design flaw or manufacturing defect regardless of the age of the system", I fail to understand how both he and the author of this piece, Mr. Rasmussen, can be so cavalier about advocating what is, essentially, committing a crime (if not legally, then at least morally). If you want to fix an Xbox, the two seem to agree, then simply lie, lie, lie. That may be sufficient for the morally suspect among us, but there is a reason we have contracts, even ones you might prefer to describe as deficient in some manner, like those that accompany your new gaming systems. You might have a legitimate problem with the way Microsoft has acted in this generation of console production, but your answer serves only to make cheats out of those that follow your advice.

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April 18, 2010

Joshua, I understand your frustration, but I'm not sure you've dealt with Microsoft's Customer service regarding the 360. I used to work in electronics retail and more specifically, dealing with the games and software portion, and have dealt with them more than I care to on other people's behalf, so I'll give you a possible explanation:


Microsoft doesn't want to repair them. They want to go through considerable effort to say that it's not their responsibility. They even went so far as to say the act of plugging the system into a power bar as opposed to directly into a wall outlet was responsible and voided the warranty. (and no, I'm not making this up) Now these people are trained to find loopholes so they can say no to someone wanting a product that works without having to pay almost twice the price they intended to pay. Microsoft has already committed a breach of the contract you mentioned by selling a faulty system, and are more than willing to lie to get out of accepting any responsibility.

I do agree that lying is morally reprehensible and do follow the "two wrongs don't make a right". But while two wrongs don't make a right, it does get the desired result in this case. If all the people with problems with their system didn't lie to get their systems repaired, Microsoft could easily have unjustly claimed both the "least defective rate" and "most units sold" of this generation of systems, simply because they could ignore the problem that they created.

April 18, 2010

While I'm not going to disagree with you Joshua, about advocating lying in this situation, I will add this: After selling this console for almost 5 years, I can assure you that many people still choose to purchase a brand new console instead of going through the hassle, even when their  console IS under warranty. If it wasn't detrimental to the business, I would advocate the retailers to support the customers and make a better effort to stick it to the manufacturers by replacing all of these defective consoles, but that is just unlikely.

Now, I don't at all feel that this is morally reprehensible. Lying is, yes. But do you feel that it is fair for Microsoft, allegedly knowing they were shipping defective hardware, to not repair every console that fails without any input from the consumer? I am not a person to argue that Microsoft is inherently evil. But this is an issue that effects nearly everyone who owns a 360, or at least someone you know. And that's just not good for the gaming industry.

There are many people who just want a console to play video games. They will not connect to Xbox Live. They may not connect their console to and HDTV or even understand the difference. They just don't have the information. And if they become disillusioned by a negative experience with a gaming console, they may think twice before purchasing a console again. So I am merely trying to provide assistance in making a bad situation a little less negative.

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April 18, 2010

If lying is the only way to get fair treatment from Microsoft, then I agree that you should go for it. With the ubiquity of Xbox 360 red-ring failures, I think it's morally suspect of Microsoft to not repair them for free regardless of purchase date. It's clearly a design defect that consumers have no control over, and they should not have to be punished for Microsoft's mistakes. You know who should have to suck up the costs and pay for screwing up? Microsoft.

Jayhenningsen
April 19, 2010

Joshua - I don't expect to change the way you feel about the situation, but I figured I'd add my perspective to the responses. Normally, I don't think lying is the way to go, personally or professionally. However, Microsoft has been continuously lying and trying to take advantage of the situation caused by their own negligence. There are a lot of people out there who've been screwed out of their hard-earned money because they didn't know how to effectively deal with Microsoft's intentionally difficult and confusing customer service practices.

While you may have moral qualms about being less than truthful with Microsoft, Microsoft has no such qualms about doing everything in their power, including lying, to get you to spend more money on a new system, even when they were directly responsible for the cause of the original failure.

Furthermore, even if you don't directly lie to Microsoft, this article still has good advice for navigating difficult customer service situations, and I still feel this can be of value to the people who read it. I also think that our readers are intelligent enough to make up their own minds about this situation, whether they agree with the author or you.

Bitmob_lost_woods
April 19, 2010

Hmm... This gives me an idea. Put out an ad to buy red ringged 360s for cheap, have MS CS replace them, and I sell refurbished 360s on eBay! Mwa hahaha :)

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April 19, 2010

I just wanted to say I've owned my Xbox 360 since Gears of War launched in November 2006, and I've never had my system malfunction or crap out - I think I might've gotten an error message once or twice, but all that I had to do was reboot it and no more problems (and usually it was a "disk is unreadable error" - blow/wipe the back of the disc and reinsert and it was fine).

Just wanted to, you know, say that sometimes stuff DOES work as advertised and things CAN go according to plan. ;)

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