Bitmob Splitscreen: Gaming with Significant Others

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Thursday, June 03, 2010

Editor's note: Evan returns with another edition of Bitmob Splitscreen. This time around, he and Alex R. Cronk-Young discuss gaming with the ladies. -Brett


Bitmob Splitscreen is a one-on-one discussion conducted over email on a single topic. For this, the seventh installment, Bitmob's resident struthiophile, Alex R. Cronk-Young, and I sat down (at our computers) to talk about gaming's relationship to our...relationships. Read on for a slight case of denial, a bit too much information, and a poor Nintendo 64 left on a doorstep, cold and alone and...*sniff*.

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Alex Cronk-Young: My wife, Zoe, has never classified herself as a gamer, but she can be pretty obsessive. When we were dating I burned copies of the few PC games that I had (shhh): Diablo and Age of Empires. Neither of these games would be considered "girl friendly," but she got pretty hooked. To me, the draw of Diablo was online play, but she just pored over it offline.

I'm pretty sure she played the game through with all three characters. She even played through the Hellfire expansion with that Monk character they added. I fed her hunger with Starcraft and Diablo 2, and she played them just as much.

 

Nowadays her tastes aren't as hardcore, but that's probably just because our PC sucks. I always find excuses to buy her video games, and even though she complains about it, she always plays the crap out of them. I bought her Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility about a month ago in lieu of buying a game for myself, and since then I have fallen asleep to the glow of her feeding her animals every single night. I then added some Cooking Mama to the mix on Mother's Day, with the same results.

Do you have any idea how many months she played Clubhouse Games for the DS before I bought those two games? Every single night. I'd love to possess her dedication to video games.

Evan Killham: I hate to break it to Zoe, but she sounds like a gamer to me. I couldn't get into Diablo that much, and I've got cred: When I was playing The Force Unleashed, I once planted Darth Vader on a bridge for an hour and made him Force push endlessly spawning Wookiees until an Achievement unlocked. And then I moved on to the choking.

That's interesting, though. Where do you think the line is between a "person who plays games" and a "gamer," and why does she place herself in the former category? For lack of a better word, is there shame involved?

AC-Y: It's probably just a stigma. I think if all of the "Facebook gamers" found the one game that really clicked with them, they'd change the way they identify themselves.

I always liked games as a kid. We had an Atari 2600, an NES, and a Genesis, and I played them all a fair amount. Still, while I'm nostalgic for all the games I played on those systems, we never had very many games, and the ones we did get weren't the amazing games that people remember. My friend, however, had all the good games, and I played through the SNES RPGs I'm still fond of over at his house.

IcoBut when I picked up Ico in a bargain bin, and then Shadow of the Colossus once it came out, my whole outlook on games changed. I see those two games as the point where I stopped defining myself as "someone who plays games" and started thinking of myself as a lifelong "gamer."

If my wife and all the other casual players found a game that really connected with them on a level deeper -- in other words, something other than a time-killer -- then maybe they'd change as well.

EK: I think you're on to something there. It seems like the line between the two is the point at which games stop being just something to pass time when you should have something "better" to do. But I've taken us a bit off-topic.

My girlfriend, Meghan, actually identifies herself as a gamer. She plays a lot of RPGs and has recently gotten into first-person shooters. She bought me Assassin's Creed 2 and Dragon Age: Origins last Christmas -- and she played through both of them before I did.

She's also my go-to partner for co-op games, which is fortunate because I don't play much online. This works out pretty well, because Resident Evil 5 is all but unplayable alone, and Borderlands is a lot less fun. When it comes to buying games, she has two standard questions: "Can we play this together?" and, barring that, "Will I be bored watching you play this?"

AC-Y: Man, the closest thing Zoe and I have come to co-op is sharing a town in Animal Crossing for the DS. I'd love to sit down and play through a game with her, but I'd probably end up acting like an ass toward her, and then she'd get mad. I'm pretty happy with watching her plow through a Castlevania on our DS every night, or even a Harvest Moon on the Wii. Plus, she can kick my ass in Dr. Mario every single time.

Was Meghan raised in a gaming household? I really wasn't. I mean, we had systems, but we barely had any games, and I was the only one who cared enough about them to ask for new ones. Zoe's parents actually threw game parties and invited kids over to play Track and Field with their NES Power Pad. And they bought her and her siblings a TurboGrafx16, which I hadn't even heard of when we started dating.

EK: Meghan didn't grow up in a gaming household at all. I don't know if it's quite accurate to say that her parents hate video games, but it's usually best if I don't bring up anything gaming related around her mom. But in spite of that, Meghan's first major solo purchase was a Genesis, and she also bought her own PlayStation.

How about your previous relationships? Did any of your past girlfriends feel strongly one way or the other about games?

AC-Y: Zoe was my first...for eeeeeverything.

EK: Ew.

AC-Y: Uh, yeah. Sorry for the creepiness. But we met and started dating sophomore year of high school and got married five years later.

Any past girlfriends for you that were gaming nightmares or hardest of the hardcore?

EK: Back in high school, my first girlfriend was a pretty serious gamer. She introduced me to the awesomeness that was the opening cinema and theme song of Wild Arms, and the balls-out insanity of Knights of the Round in Final Fantasy 7.

She also gave me her Nintendo 64 for what she called an "extended loan." She actually told me, "If we break up, you can keep it." You can probably guess how that story ends... We broke up later, and then she wanted the N64 back. I guess she couldn't stand to look at me at that point, so she told me to just put the box on her front step, ring the doorbell, and then leave. I'm not going to be dramatic and say that it was like abandoning a child, but it was definitely embarrassing and shameful. That's the only time I've ever wished I hadn't dated a gamer.

AC-Y: Oh man, that's a traumatic experience right there.

Since Zoe and I have been together, I've claimed that I purchased lot of consoles for her. I told her I bought the DS for her, mainly so she wouldn't yell at me as much for spending money. But here's a secret: I really wanted it. I did the same thing with the Wii, although in that case, I kind of used her as an excuse: I still thought the Wii was a lame gimmick, but I was curious about it. I can't imagine how much it would suck if she demanded I not touch "her" systems, or dumped me and took them with her.

A lot of people have hairbrained theories on whether or not a gamer should date another gamer, or if they should avoid non-gamers like the plague. But I think the real goal should be finding someone who likes you no matter what your hobby. Despite Zoe's assorted gaming-related childhood experiences, she never really cared about games. She still thinks of them as mere time-killers, but she knows I like them a great deal more than that, and she's okay with it. And I like to think that some of my adoration rubbed off on her a little bit.


Thanks to Alex for his time -- and for not caring which picture I used up there. Seriously...it could have been the Devo one.

Do you have any cute or traumatic stories about gaming with (or without) significant others? Put them in the comments.

 
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Comments (19)
Alexemmy
June 02, 2010

Somehow I knew you'd use that picture. Dammit.

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June 02, 2010

It's not a bad picture...and it kind of makes it look like we're in the gaming equivalent of a buddy cop film.

Alexemmy
June 02, 2010

Well, as long as you're the one that is "too old for this shit", I'm happy with that.

N712711743_851007_3478
June 02, 2010

The concept of what a gamer is is so nebulous, I'm not sure if I can truly call my wife one.

On one hand, she's a Bejeweled junkie and enjoys her hand at Wii Sports bowling; but the second anything requires anything beyond puzzles and muscle memory, she's out.  She feigns interest when I'm playing something new, but I just think that's to placate the fact that I don't have my middle brother around to geek out about it.

Wow, nebulous or not, I think I just answered my own question.

Good post, gents!

Default_picture
June 02, 2010

Good read!

I'm curious what if you have anything to say to people who are trying to get their significant others into games. My girlfriend wants to play games with me all the time but she can't get over the complexities of controllers for this generation of consoles. Any ideas?

Pshades-s
June 02, 2010

You guys both have it good. My wife has shown precious little interest in games, and when she does it fades fast. She got all excited for New Super Mario Bros Wii but when she discovered that *ahem* she is frigging terrible at Mario games, she gave up. I subsequently lost most interest in the game because my intended co-op partner was gone.

Amazingly, she is psyched at the idea of a 3-D TV so that's one future geeky purchase I won't have to debate her into approving. But all the credit on that goes to Avatar, not games.

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June 02, 2010
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June 02, 2010

@Evan - Thanks for the link!

Alexemmy
June 03, 2010

@Marty - I think I said it in that article Evan linked you to, but it's been forever so I'll repeat it. Just experiment like crazy. Diablo never seemed like a game that would click for her, but my wife, then girlfriend, devoured it. So from then on I just got creative with things. I took a chance with the Mario & Luigi games on gba and it paid off, so I gave her a Castlevania and that worked as well.

Don't just assume your girlfriend will only like Sims and cooking sim games, but also don't be afraid to buy those for her as well. Sometimes my wife shows interest in a game that looks like shovelware to me, and I've learned that telling her it is garbage and I'm not buying it doesn't go over well. We'll look up reviews and such and figure out if it's worth the money, and if she's still interested we'll get it.

Beyond experimenting with the games you might want her to play, don't be afraid to buy her Cooking Mama if she wants it. At least she is showing interest in games, and it might continue to grow into a love. And through experimentation, you might find that one game that jump starts the whole thing for her, like Shadow of the Colossus did for me.

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June 03, 2010

Nice job, guys. There needs to be more of these, Evan! I love them.

Brett_new_profile
June 03, 2010

I loved this Splitscreen, guys, probably because I can relate.

My last girlfriend was a self-loathing gamer: She always felt she should be doing something better, but she probably spent more time playing a Web version of Picross than I did across all of my systems. So whenever I brought out a game, or talked about them, she looked down on it.

My current girlfriend is infinitely better when it comes to gaming. She's not hardcore by any means -- she likes Mario, the Wii, and iPhone games (her current obsession is Ninjatown: Trees of Doom). But like Alex writes at the end of the article, she love me no matter where my interests lie. She's encouraged me to take a chance with a career in the games industry because she wants to see me happy, and I'm incredibly grateful for that. Sure, we may never play Borderlands co-op, but she understands and nurtures my passion. That means more to me than whether she considers herself a gamer or not.

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June 03, 2010

That's funny because I am a girl Gamer.   My husband doesn't game at all.  A co-worker of his came over and brought his wife.  As we set down, his wife observed that there was a PlayStation 3, X-box 360, and a DSI along with three laptops.  She gave a half hours dissertation about how she hated the fact that her husband loved video games.  She asked me how I handled my husband's video game obsession.  At that point, I explained to her that my husband didn't game and that the gaming consoles and electronics were MINE.  I think I left her speechless.  I'm a hardcore gamer. I pre-ordered Bioshock 2 and took a week vacation off of work to play.

Default_picture
June 03, 2010

You should both count yourselves as lucky to have such gamer-inclined significant others. I got my wife to take up Animal Crossing on the Gamecube- but that's it.

Don't get me wrong, she supports my habit, but she'd never play any co-op with me like Evan's GF. That's something pretty special.

Lance_darnell
June 03, 2010

I have tried many times to get my wife into games. She has shown an interest in Feeding Frenzy and Bejeweled 2, but other than those two titles - nothing. But she has picked up a 360 controller to play those games without prodding from me, so she is a gamer in some form, and I love her.....

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June 03, 2010

Both me and my husband are gamers, but we tend to play completely different games. It does lead to fewer arguments about gaming, and money spent on games. I also use my husband as a co-op or mutiplayer partner - infact I bought him his own copy of Bad COmpany 2 so he could go hang at his buddies house, and then we could game together after I've convinced my son to go to bed. (I work nights, so he gets plenty of Dad time too).

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June 03, 2010

It's funny, but I've finally reached that point with my fiance where we will actually have an argument over a video game. She gets annoyed when I don't want to play Left 4 Dead 2 at a certain time (especially while I'm playing the Starcraft 2 beta; I could tell the intro music started to get to her). I actually joke to my friends that it's not playing the games that's the problem, it's that I don't play the games with her all the time.

With that said, I couldn't imagine being with someone who wasn't interested in video games. I'd much rather have my fiance be mad at me for not playing L4D2 with than have her be because I'm playing any game at all.

She is a lot of fun to play with, though we've had some clashes online ("why'd you jump off that building?" "I didn't mean to!!! >:(" ). For the most part we get along while playing together and often have a lot of fun, hilarious and intense moments together. One time, someone asked us on L4D2 if we were brother and sister, and we starting LOLing it up. We've found that a lot of people online like playing with us, because we're a lot of fun. Thankfully, I can still keep my individual identity too when I want to play alone. That's a really important part in any relationship.

26583_1404714564368_1427496717_31101969_389938_n
June 03, 2010

I'm really enjoying reading these comments. Thanks, everyone.

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June 04, 2010

Hurm, I might start gifting my GF wii games so that when I am over at her house I can play them. Think that would ruin her Bday?

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June 04, 2010

@Jazz start with the Beat Trip games. They have been the most girl friendly games at my place.

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