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Homosexuality in Gaming

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Saturday, January 23, 2010

Editor's note: I've rewritten this note about nine times. This article made me upset. When I did a search on the site, I only found one other piece about homosexuality. While I'm not gay, civil liberties for homosexuals are something I'm very passionate about. We've advanced pretty far as a culture, and it disgusts me that we still aren't affording the same rights to every human being on earth.... I have to stop now (before I go full-tirade). Anyway, check out Garreth's astute take on how video games portray gay characters. -James


Homosexuality is a hard issue. In the former part of the last century, it was taboo. Recently, we have seen an amazing acceptance of homosexuality in all forms of media. We see it in music, movies, and prose fiction. But not in video games -- developers still constantly drag their heels on the subject.

Finally, we are starting to see the emergence of gay culture and gay characters in gaming. The most talked about and controversial issue concerning gayness this year has been Dragon Age: Origins (and last year, Mass Effect).

Bioware's narrative experience allows players to do whatever they want: Your character can sleep with partners of either sex, and many side characters are bisexual. This is a huge step forward; it is one of the only moments in my mind where you have the option to choose your character's sexual preference.

 

Another game that came out this year is Grand Theft Auto 4: The Ballad Of Gay Tony. Rockstar has never really been known for pulling a punch. They pull issues apart and satirize them. Although you do not play as Gay Tony, you do play a business associate of his. Through cut scenes in the game we see that Tony is a stereotypical gay man. Tony's biggest interests seem to be men, clubbing and using drugs (in that order). Whenever danger is abound, he tends to scream in a very high-pitched tone, duck for cover, and cry for his life. But the game tries to show a bit more about Tony: He takes care of two businesses while fending off the mafia.

By far, one of the most overlooked homosexual characters in gaming is Kanji from Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4. To me, he is one of the most interesting and amazing characters in gaming. Kanji is a deeply torn teenage boy; he is trying to come to terms with his own sexuality. When you first meet him, he comes across as a total bad-ass. But eventually you find out that Kanji is holding a secret: He is struggling to come to terms with being gay.

In the game you have to find his persona -- one that is extremely flamboyant and makes its home in a bath house. The point of the monster sidekicks in Persona 4 are to illustrate the parts of the characters that they don't share with other (but that still deeply define of them). As the game progresses, we see others tease Kanji about being homosexual when he shows little moments of overt gayness.

I applaud taking the time to make such a deep and complex character, and it has really shown that gaming can grow up and re-envision how to portray someone as more than a stereotype. The only downside is that Persona 4 was a small-release game. The general gaming public hasn't seen it, so coming to terms with homosexuality is still off in the horizon somewhere.

Homosexuality is something that will always be a heated topic in the world -- many bigoted people are out there. But to see that homosexuality is finally making its move into video game culture is great, and hopefully, it can be used as a tool for educating the public. I hope that 2010 will be the year where a major mainstream release will feature a homosexual character that is more than just a stereotype.

 
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Comments (41)
Redeye
January 21, 2010
I certainly share your hope that we will see more nuanced and interesting homosexual characters in games. I really worry about such things though, game writing and people's reactions to game writing these days strikes me as notoriously thick and slow to pick up on important stuff like this. Even if we do see game makers genuinely trying to do something positive like this that wouldn't guarantee they would do it right and we certainly have plenty of growing pains to go through before the players would even receive it properly.
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January 21, 2010
This was a great read about something I hadn't actually thought about before. Have to say man, your use of voice impressed me. I'm easily distracted while reading articles but you managed to keep my attention! Hope to see more from you in the future!
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January 21, 2010
Interesting subject, hadn't thought about it before.
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January 21, 2010
It sucks to know that in this day and age we are still not comfortable with male homosexuality yet no one bats an eye when it comes to female homosexuality. It's not so much the industries fault, it's more the American culture to blame. Until we can understand that people have the freedom of choice and we have no right to judge, homosexuality in general will always be a touchy subject with the game industry. Just glad that Bioware has grown up unlike most of America.
January 21, 2010
Great job profiling Kanji. I have not played a Persona game as of yet but this article has certainly piqued my interest. I normally don't go out of my way looking for gay experiences in games but I enjoy games that present complementary gay content and give me the genuine option of pursuing gay relationships. Fable 2, and now Dragon Age: Origins have adequately scratched that itch but now I am left wanting more. Here's hoping the trend continues.
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January 21, 2010
[quote]Just glad that Bioware has grown up unlike most of America.[/quote] Probably because they are Canadian. OH SNAP! Anyway, on the subject of Persona 4... *SPOILERS* Kanji isn't REALLY gay. I am still playing through it, so I can't remember the exact detail; he was struggling with the possibility of being gay, but then realized he was just 'uncomfortable' speaking with women and thought he may have been more interested in men. He does get a crush on a moderately transsexual character, but beyond that he realizes that it's okay to get in touch with his feminine side and yadda yadda yadda. Unfortunately not gay.*SPOILERS* Anyone remember The Temple of Elemental Evil? You could get gay married in that game. To a dwarf! ... Let's see TLC make a show about THAT! On the subject of homosexuality in games, I am a perfectly straight male who has no problems with gay people, being gay, or gay culture. I think that even though the fight for womens rights and racism are not done, the next great bastion of societal progress is gay rights. One of the ways that societal views are improved is through entertainment mediums. Television, Films, Novels, and even comic books have pushed issues of tolerance and progress in society and I think that it's fabulous to see some games doing the same for this fight as well. I think we have a long way to go, and I can't wait to see what developers are going to tackle this issue next. Why can't Marcus in Gears of War be gay? I haven't enjoyed GOW1 or 2 to a great degree, but if they did that for the third game I can guarantee it will be a DAY ONE purchase for me.
Andrewh
January 22, 2010
First of all, the tag Newfie confuses me, especially since I am one. Second, I hope James isn't referring to my very first Bitmob article, a satirical and fictional interview with the gay Funky Kong, because I don't think that counts. As for developers using gay characters... listening in on any voice chat in a multiplayer game shows us the need to start exploring the concept of homosexuality... maybe it might tune some people into the issue and not be so foolish when playing online. Oh, who am I kidding?
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January 22, 2010
Persona 4 is (somewhat surprisingly) rife with issues involving sexuality, and I felt that it did an incredible job of addressing them through both dialogue and symbolism. There is a mixture of subtlety and overtness in the narratives of Kanji, Naoto, Yukiko, Rise, and even Chie, that tackle the many facets of sexuality as part of a larger emotional picture. None of the characters is defined by their sexual identity, but the writers were very careful to make sure that it was explored. In that sense, Persona 4 had some of the most "human" characters I've ever come across in a game.
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January 22, 2010
@Nicholas: Agreed. The Persona series (particularly 3 and 4) has never shied away from dealing with real issues that teens face. And giant monsters. But actually, they're mostly about teen issues, with many of aforementioned giant monsters merely serving to highlight said issues in a somewhat in-your-face manner. They remain some of the most mature, sensitive games out there.
January 22, 2010
I shudder to read some of these comments and articles like this. NOT because I have anything against homosexuality or any race, but because for some reason people think it NEEDS to be in the media. Now before you start writing about how their rights need to be fought for, please allow me to explain what I mean. Games and most forms of media, have long been the first to try new things. The problem I have with people wanting to see more homosexuality in media, is that when executives hear people say that, all they do is say: "Hmmmm, ok they want gays so......lets make Bobby come out of the closet in season four, then if they like it on the forums, we can make a spin off tv show and continuously exploit stereotypes. I can almost taste the money now!" I understand that we should have an open mind and accept homosexuality into our culture, but I do not want to see people just add it to stories or use it simply to "get the gay vote". You mention Persona 4, and by your description of it I think that it has the right idea when it comes to the subject of homosexuality. Unfortunately, when something starts becoming popular or in this case when people become more aware of something, there are bound to be stereotypes and resistance. This is true of every single race, ethnicity, religion and sexuality. NO it is not right, or just, or even acceptable but this is the unfortunate world we live in. Every one is stereotyped, and historically homosexuality has been around since humanity learned to record events. I want developers to be unafraid of including all cultures into a game, just like Sundance films often explore themes that other filmmakers are afraid to approach. Game development is an art, but of course they need to feed their families as well so they want it to sell. We are on an upward trend, soon homosexuals will exist in the media just like gangsters and ninjas: stereotyped beyond recognition and token characters for ratings. We need to accept that unless it is a sex game....homosexuality should not play center stage. The story is what is important and in my opinion, a homosexual ninja is just as deadly as a heterosexual one. Sorry such a long comment, I had a lot to say.
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January 22, 2010
We're gonna run out of controversial topics to discuss given the rate we've been burning through them around here lately!
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January 22, 2010
Re: Jacob I do agree with you that I would hate to see a paper thin gay character starting to appear in every new title just to appeal to that market, but I would like to see a greater decline in the "Chiseled Manly Man" hero. The point of gaming is to set the character into another world where anything could happen, and if we were to break the paradigm set into video games about the hero character.
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January 22, 2010
Great comments everyone. I especially thought Jacob made a really interesting point I hadn't thought of before. And LOL @ Eric. :)
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January 22, 2010
I don't think this issue will go anywhere until a company puts out a game people play it and then as a side note says "oh yeah, she/he is gay." The Dumbledore approach if you will. Using pure stereotypes will not appease the LGBT community and will further push away the casually homophobic.
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January 22, 2010
I think a scenario that might be interesting is announcing that a character is gay after the game is finished. Imagine if after playing Gears of War that you find out that Dominick and Marcus were lovers.
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January 22, 2010
This would be a good time to mention http://www.gaygamer.net - safe for work unless your net filters freak out about the very idea of 'Gaaaaaaaaaaaaay'. Being a gay video gamer seems a bit like being a gay republican, so though I'm not myself (I just hate everyone) I follow it with interest. You certainly get a different perspective from the normal regurgitated gaming news, much like with Bitmob.
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January 22, 2010
> Imagine if after playing Gears of War that you find out that Dominick and Marcus were lovers. Wait, you mean they weren't? Mind... blown.
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January 22, 2010
I just finished playing Mass Effect (in prep for 2) and I don't remember even a hint of homosexuality. And having read about DAO, I was looking. Of course it could have gone completely over my head.. Unfortunately, I cant go back for a second look as my new 360 HD crashed taking my game saves with it. :-(
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January 22, 2010
@Jeffrey: In Mass Effect, if I remember correctly, a female PC could have a lesbian relationship with Liara. There wasn't a male homosexual equivalent. As for DAO, the homosexuality only comes up if you specifically pursue it, but it's there for both sexes.
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January 22, 2010
A flamboyant persona in a bath house? Gaming hasn't grown up. Thats still an overused stereotype. And like Mr. Gagne said, he turns out to not be gay, which is the usual "oh, it was just a phase" excuse. Also: Having sex with a transsexual doesn't make you gay. A lot of straight guys are into cock but don't like guys, thats why transsexual prostitutes exist.
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January 22, 2010
Also: GOW would be a good game to explore it, given that there seems to be no women in that setting, dealing with the sort of prison relationships that come about.
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January 22, 2010
Very good article. I think the important thing to realise is that it all has to start somewhere. I precisely remember thinking that "Queer Eye for a Straight Guy" is such a poor representation of the lgbt community, and that was only a few years ago. Since then we have had shows like "Six Feet Under" (and recently "Days of Our Lives") where the gay characters on the show didn't have to rely on stereotypes, but that their sexualities were to add another dimension to them. As for videogames, I can only imagine that it to be an uphill battle, especially for videogames with multiplayer segments where online anonymity will lead people to spread their insensitivity/fear/hatred like wildfire. That said, let's hope the change will happen to videogames the way it did with media, and that Dragon Age: Origins is only the first of many in years down the road.
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January 22, 2010
[quote]I would like to see a greater decline in the "Chiseled Manly Man" hero.[/quote] I remember that's the precise reason why I was so drawn to playing the first Silent Hill on the original PlayStation. The protagonist isn't a macho man, he doesn't have superpowers and he even pants after running for a long time! Instead, he's just an average father in search for his daughter.
Jason_wilson
January 22, 2010
It's wonderful that some studios are writing interesting characters that are gay. I want to emphasize that I wish more studios would create interesting characters, period. I don't care if they are gay or straight; black, white, or purple; rich, middle class, or poor; powerful or weak; human or alien -- I want interesting characters in every game.
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January 23, 2010
I haven't played Gay Tony, but one of my biggest issues with GTAIV was the character of Bernie. He was Niko's war comrade; a soldier who suffered the same horrors that scarred Niko. At the time, he was in the closet. When Niko meets him again in the game, he's come out of the closet, and suddenly becomes a walking gay stereotype whom Niko barely recognizes. More than that, he isn't simply unwilling to fight or get his hands dirty, he's suddenly UNABLE. As if being gay just evaporated his entire life before. This is the only version of the character we get to see, but it strikes me as odd that his coming out seemed to instantly redefine everything about his character and personality. Like we couldn't have a gay character who was like Niko; tough, stoic, weary, in addition to being homosexual. His only quality was "gayness." That was very ranty and inarticulate. But hopefully you get what I'm trying to say.
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January 23, 2010
Christian, that is brilliant for an example, I had totally forgot about Bernie, and when I think about it now he would have been a better contrast to the deep struggling Kanji.
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January 23, 2010
Its becoming clear that in todays politically correct society, mentioning God and biblical teachings is becoming more of a taboo everyday. We can sit on gaming forums and discuss how it would be good to place gay themes in our games "as a tool for educating the public", but if you try to show the other side of the issue you are a bigot. First of all, I don't hate gay people. I have my beliefs on the issue, and I have every right to do so, but in all this gay equality talk aren't you kinda perpetuating the idea that gay people are somehow "different"? According to the pro gay argument aren't we all just human beings? Equals? If a game designer or writer is creatively inspired to include a gay character in their story, for whatever reason, thats fine by me. Its a reality of life that there are people of many persuasions out there, so I guess it would just add to the realism of the story they are crafting. However, adding a gay person just for the sake of including their group, or to educate the public, seems forced. Video games can be art, but lets not turn them into political tools for special interest groups. Or how about this? You can release all the gay material you want, but can I get some games that mention God? It only seems fair. I don't mean a goddess, either (whats with all the hate towards the term "God" lol). Anyway, sorry this is so long. The article (blog, whatever) above is a little deeper than the average story on a gaming site, so I felt like blabbing a bit. Won't happen again. Oh, and I'm patiently waiting for EGM Dan. :) I can't wait. I hope you have a big role in returning the mag to its former glory. Peace.
Image2496
January 23, 2010
Bioware games are nothing, try the FABLE games from Peter Molyneux. You could have gay marriages, and they'd come with gifts every now and then. They'd be much kinder to you, compared to a woman in a heterosexual relationship. If you haven't, you must check it out.
Image2496
January 23, 2010
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW4HBufZbWg]Gay subplots in Fable 2[/url] That is a video from a gay guy discussing his experience with the gay subplots and characters. Very eye-opening, if you think Persona was ahead of the curve.
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January 23, 2010
my favorite gay character is Pepperoni from Mana Khemia fall of alchemy.
January 23, 2010
[quote]If a game designer or writer is creatively inspired to include a gay character in their story, for whatever reason, thats fine by me. Its a reality of life that there are people of many persuasions out there, so I guess it would just add to the realism of the story they are crafting. However, adding a gay person just for the sake of including their group, or to educate the public, seems forced. [/quote] This is almost exactly the point I was trying to make. We should not make it a point to include homosexuality in games just for the sake of it, but if it fits the story and universe then I want developers to feel free to. For instance, having an obviously gay character in say, Modern Warfare 2 just would not make sense at all. Now before people start freaking out and complaining about the military's old anti-gay policies, realize that I said OLD policies. Having been in the military, I can tell you that now they will accept you regardless of your sexuality however, the military's policy is that there should be no sexual conduct in any form while on duty or deployed. Unfortunately, some people in the military come from places where free thinking and open mindedness are seemingly banned, but on a whole it won't affect you anymore. In fact they have very strong policies and punishments for anyone who discriminates against another person for their sexuality, race, religion or ethnicity. Back to my main point.... Mark, I think you will find that Bit Mob is light years beyond other gaming sites in terms of maturity and content and perhaps we can take this as a good sign that there are intelligent and worth while people out there. Of course it could just be that the staff is very proactive at screening these posts but I honestly don't think they have to do that much policing. Bit Mob continuously surprises me with the deep and intelligent conversations that come up without the usual trolling on other sites, so kudos to you Bit Mobbers! Also.....games have referenced God in one form or another, but I think the general consensus is that it is easier to make up a religion than to use an existing one. Also, not to get into a religious discussion, but angels and demons are easy to use in a game, but an all knowing, all powerful abstract deity which has no distinct form is difficult to use especially considering the fact that any attempt to do so will be met with harsh criticism and bans. Perhaps religion is the next area to explore in a video game, but I think we will likely see references rather than an accurate portrayal.
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January 23, 2010
@Mark: Gay people are different. Black people are different. Hispanic people are different. Everyone is different, the issue is people being unable to accept difference as something good, rather than simply dismissing it because of that reason. Also: You can't compare religion to homosexuality. You are born with homosexuality, religion is a choice, or at least something that you are indoctrinated into as a child.
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January 23, 2010
Wow I really love how mature you guys all are! I'm not trying to be facetious but there's no way you could post an article like this on destructoid without having several idiotic comments! Love you all!
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January 23, 2010
Re: Mark i do agree than religion is under represented in gaming, and that god is kind of a taboo, but Jacob has some very good ideas. And to bring Shin Megami Tensei back into the topic, many of the games are very deep in religious symbology. In the recent DS entry, you are faced with the tower of babel situation and have the ability to side with god or the king of demons, and it is focused around a lot of old testament stories.
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January 23, 2010
I'm all for more gay characters being an integral part of videogame without the necessity to make them stereotypical.The gaming industry does seem to have no qualms with doing a gay female lead,but there should be more advent gay/bisexual leads.Not just to appeal to a certain subsect,but just to give more options and aspects of gaming for us to explore.
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January 23, 2010
To Jacob, yeah, Bitmob seems pretty mature in its content and writing, as well as the posts I've viewed. Thats nice. I just bookmarked this site. I remember when this site was in beta in Spring 08 I believe. Its come a long way. Props. And to Garreth, thanks for pointing to Shin Megami Tensai on the DS as having a good story. I'll definitely check it out if I see it on the shelves. I need a new game to play on my DS....haven't been playing much lately. See yall later. :) infowars.com! lol
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January 24, 2010
@Jacob You're missing the point. You make a character gay if it is an interesting facet to that person. They mention offhand about a boyfriend back home, or something to that effect. Its not intrusive, its not stereotyping, its jut a part of the character.
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January 24, 2010
I'm surprised that no one mentioned Jade Empire. Sure, the article touches on Bioware titles, but unless I'm mistaken, JE was Bioware's first foray into gay male relationships in their games.
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January 24, 2010
@Ellis: I don't remember gay relationships being in Jade Empire... Where?
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January 24, 2010
@Brian: Sky (this dude: http://jade.bioware.com/_global/images/gallery/character_feature/jade_gallery_05_640x500.jpg) was available as a relationship for both male and female chars.
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January 24, 2010
@Oldtaku: Thanks.

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