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Bitmob Mailbag Extra: The "Top 10 Games of All Time" Game

Brett_new_profile
Friday, April 30, 2010

As I mentioned in yesterday's Mailbag, one question we received nearly brought the entire staff to blows. That question? The top 10 games of all time, of course.

And if that question wasn't hard enough to answer on its own, just wait until you see the rules imposed on us...

Remember: Send your own questions, comments, and diabolical metagames to letters@bitmob.com (subject: "Mailbag") to be included in a future edition of the Mailbag!


At PAX East, Stephen Totilo of Kotaku and N'Gai Croal held a panel on a "game" called "Canon Fodder," which sought to determine once and for all the top 10 games of all time. They asked some well known industry folks to contribute, and I'd love to hear your take on the final list:

1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Half-Life
7. World of Warcraft
8. StarCraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

With this list, you can do one of two actions: (1) Swap the spots of any two games on the list or (2) remove one game from the list and substitute in your own.

-Byung J. Park

Brett: Since we're all gamers here, we couldn't resist the challenge of a game about games. I passed Byung's list and instructions to the staff, and the resulting email thread spanned 34 messages. Here is that thread:

 

Brett's move:

1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Half-Life
7. World of Warcraft
8. Starcraft Super Mario Bros.
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Rob's move:

1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time X-Com: UFO Defense
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Half-Life
7. World of Warcraft
8. Super Mario Bros.
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Mike's move:

1. X-Com: UFO Defense Grim Fandango
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Half-Life
7. World of Warcraft
8. Super Mario Bros.
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

James's move:

1. Grim Fandango Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Half-Life
7. World of Warcraft
8. Super Mario Bros.
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Jason's move:

1. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night Planescape: Torment
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Half-Life
7. World of Warcraft
8. Super Mario Bros.
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Jason: Though I can't pass this along to the Bitmob community without pointing out how console-biased this list is and how it ignores 30 years of PC-game development.

Andrew: Quit swapping the top spot! Haha!

Andrew's move:

1. Planescape: Torment
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Half-Life
7. World of Warcraft
8. Super Mario Bros. Pilotwings 64
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Jasmine's move:

1. Planescape: Torment
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Half-Life
7. World of Warcraft Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Pilotwings 64
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Shoe: Planescape: Torment as our #1 game of all time? Are you people serious? :P

Shoe's move:

1. Planescape: Torment Super Mario Bros. 3
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Half-Life
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Pilotwings 64
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Omri's move:

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Pilotwings 64
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Shoe: You bastard!! I was thinking I wanted to get the inside scoop on when the literal deadline was, so I could have the last word. ;)

Demian: This list-making formula seems designed to infuriate everybody...

Demian's move:

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Pilotwings 64 World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Demian: So...unsatisfying.

Andrew: Speaking of which, Demian is now going to get knifed. Pilotwings 64 is superior to World of Warcraft in every conceivable way.

Mike: I would hate you all much less if we could make our own lists.

Jay's move:

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Chrono Trigger Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris

Jason: You gutted out Planescape, the best story- and dialogue-driven RPG in gaming history? You guys stink.

James: You killed Castlevania on your warpath to glory, Jason. You'll get no sympathy from me!

I should have made Castlevania: Symphony of the Night second or third -- then it wouldn't have been erased. Damn you, weird selection process!

And finally, latecomer Omar weighs in with the final move:

Omar's move:

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Tetris Baldur's Gate 2


There you have it, Bitmob community: the definitive list of the top 10 games of all time. End of story.

...Or is it?

Don't like our final list? Keep the game going in the comments!

 
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Comments (33)
Franksmall
April 30, 2010

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

There184
April 30, 2010

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Metal Gear Solid
4. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Mass Effect 2

Sorry, Frank.

Default_picture
April 30, 2010

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. American McGee's Alice In Wonderland (Changed)
4. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Mass Effect 2

Default_picture
April 30, 2010

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. American McGee's Alice In Wonderland
4. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

Restored!

 

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Fallout 2 (changed)
4. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2


How do I change the font color again?

Default_picture
April 30, 2010

darn my pick was changed :( 

There184
April 30, 2010

That's what happens when you smoke crack, Toby. :p

And re: font colour-changing. I had to rely on copying and pasting red text.

Jamespic4
April 30, 2010

In all truth, this was a lot of fun! I hope someone else mails in another staff-wide "game" suggestion like this. Also, many thanks to Jasmine for reinstating Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.

Img_20100902_162803
April 30, 2010

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Fallout 2
4. Shadow of the Colossus (changed)
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

37893_1338936035999_1309080061_30825631_6290042_n
April 30, 2010

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Psychonauts
4. Shadow of the Colossus
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. World of Warcraft
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

Default_picture
May 01, 2010

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Psychonauts
4. Shadow of the Colossus
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

Img_20100902_162803
May 01, 2010

Keep it up you guys, let see how much the list changes within a week.

Default_picture
May 01, 2010

 1. Half-Life

2. Super Mario 64
3. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory(changed)
4. Shadow of the Colossus
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

Default_picture
May 01, 2010

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Deus Ex (changed)
4. Shadow of the Colossus
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

Bitmob_lost_woods
May 01, 2010

1. Half-Life
2. Super Mario 64
3. Deus Ex


4. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

As much as I love killing Colossuseses, it has a disturbing lack of lightsabers.

Aj_newfoundland_avatar
May 01, 2010

1. Half-Life 2
2. Super Mario 64
3. Deus Ex
4. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

There, I fixed it.

Eyargh
May 02, 2010

1. Half-Life 2
2. Super Mario 64
3. Deus Ex
4. [color=red]Metal Gear Solid[/color]
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

Default_picture
May 02, 2010

1. Tetris (Changed)
2. Super Mario 64
3. Deus Ex
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Portal
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

There, now the list is correct.

Shoe_headshot_-_square
May 02, 2010

Haha, loved these comments:

"That's what happens when you smoke crack, Toby. :p"

"There, now the list is correct."

Alexemmy
May 02, 2010
Alexemmy
May 02, 2010

What the crap is wrong with you people?! Someone put Psychonauts back on there please!

Me_and_luke
May 02, 2010

1. [b]Super Mario Bros. 3[/b] (switched)
2. Super Mario 64
3. Deus Ex
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Portal
6. [b]Shadow of the Colossus[/b] (switched)
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

(I haven't even played half of the games on this current list)

Default_picture
May 02, 2010

A strange game.

The only winning move is not to play.

How about a nice game of chess?

Default_picture
May 02, 2010

Ah, the rules don't limit the scope of what kinds of games, only that console games are implied. Well then:

1. Chess (switched)
2. Super Mario 64
3. Deus Ex
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Portal
6. Shadow of the Colossus
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

May 03, 2010

1. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

2. Super Mario 64
3. Deus Ex
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Portal
6. Shadow of the Colossus
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Baldur's Gate 2

Checkmate.

Brett_new_profile
May 03, 2010

@Kevin: Hehe, that was pretty awesome.

Default_picture
May 03, 2010

I vote whoever wrote in Super Mario 64 as the winner for keeping both a high #2 spot for the most rounds (no switches or changes at all!). Half Life and Metal Gear Solid placers are probably next depending on how you keep score.


Anyway, there's probably a lot to be said for appreciating either intuitively or consciously just how contested the #1 spot would be and placing your vote strategically knowing that. I would have guessed that the Nashlike equilibrium spot would be #5, being the safest bet to avoid being knocked off (and Portal did hang the whole time too), but I underestimated the power of #1 spot to keep players distracted, but I think there's also a lot to be said about placing a title that could be hard to move if it's as solid a pick as Super Mario 64.

If I knew how to make bets, I probably would have given longest odds on the #1 spot caller, with a high dropoff of risk going down to #2, then a gradual decrease to safest odds on #10. But I still would not have figured #2 to last so long.

Default_picture
May 03, 2010

@Kevin: To be honest, I have no clue why anyone would put Ocarina #1 when Link to Past was so much better.

A little disappointed Braid never showed up at all too, but it's not exactly an approachable game nor a long-time classic, despite Portal persisting in #5. Then again, Portal had Valve lineage, great 3D graphics, silly-psycho AI, and fake cake.

Default_picture
May 03, 2010

Sorry PC gamers, but portable games are awesome too!

1. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

2. Super Mario 64
3. Deus Ex
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Portal
6. Shadow of the Colossus
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Pokemon Gold/Silver 

0827102146-01
May 04, 2010

1. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
2. Super Mario 64
3. GoldenEye 007
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Portal
6. Shadow of the Colossus
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Pokemon Gold/Silver

Default_picture
May 05, 2010

1. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
2. Super Mario 64
3. GoldenEye 007
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Portal
6. Shadow of the Colossus
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Deus Ex (restored)

of all the things to swap...

Default_picture
May 05, 2010

Glad I waited this late to play...

 

1. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
2. Super Mario 64
3. Final Fantasy 7 (changed)
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Portal
6. Shadow of the Colossus
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Deus Ex
 

Scott_pilgrim_avatar
May 06, 2010


I still think the original is best!

1. The Legend of Zelda (changed)
2. Super Mario 64
3. Final Fantasy 7
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Portal
6. Shadow of the Colossus
7. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Super Metroid
10. Deus Ex

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